• CON

    School Uniforms alone do not teach boys to be neat and...

    School uniforms should be required

    I would first like to thank my opponent for creating such a unique debate topic from what I've seen on this site. I'm sure this will be a interesting debate for the both of us. I accept my opponent's definition of "school uniform." However, my opponent has to realize that the government cannot force private schools to wear uniforms if it chooses not to require them if he hasn't realized such a thing. I also ask that any videos not be looked at until I ask you dear reader. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I shall now jump into my opponent's points and begin to refute: 1.) As a high schooler, I know full well that I would hate certain aspects of my school with or without school uniforms. In fact, being forced to wear school uniforms will make me dislike my school more. My opponent talks about helping each other to succeed, which is fine on a team but school is about individualism. There is rarely team "tests or team essays which are the majority of grades in most classes. Comparing sport teams to school is like apple and oranges. In fact, many students would feel like the school is more of a dictatorship then anything with uniforms. Again, school uniforms suppresses individualism and discourages teachers to recognise students for their different personalities, character, and abilities. School Uniforms also stop students from taking responsibility for the aspect of dressing themselves for a public environment. Uniforms fit for Military schools where unity, and discipline are key along with following orders. Not public school where creativity, and being yourself are key elements. Private schools do not matter in this debate as I've shown above. 2.) It surely does not help students focus as they will only find other ways to bully or tease one another. Furthermore, it encourages others to mock those who do not have their uniforms as perfect as perhaps their own little group. Other students will simply bring a outfit from home to change into the minute class ends. I would know as many of my friends (both boys and girls) attend private catholic schools where uniforms are required. (Oh and they hate the uniforms). 3.) School Uniforms alone do not teach boys to be neat and girls to be attractive. Who says the boys and girls must keep their uniforms in fashionable or even clean shape? All school uniforms reenforce is wearing semi-formal outfits in school. 4.) Again, untrue as I've already proven above. My opponent also fails to realize that if this was true then it would only make other students get bullied more often if not more for simply acting differently or having a different personality. 5.) Students will be less likely to want to learn in a strict environment. The Japan cosplay example my opponent gives is a rare one at best and this entire point really is invalid since students can express themselves in fashion outside of school without school uniforms. This link explores the difference between Japanese and U.S. schools: http://sitemaker.umich.edu... Japanese students go to school for 240 days out of the year compared to 180 for American students and Japanese students go in for a half day of instruction on saturday. Japan also uses it's school funding better then America since getting to the students to the school is less of a issue in Japan. This link explores Taiwan schools: http://en.wikipedia.org... From the Link: "It has been criticised for placing excessive pressure on students and eschewing creativity in favour of rote memorization." There is a difference between teaching and turning students into robots who merely repeat what they been programmed to do. "Students often stay as late as 8 or 9 PM for "extra classes" which is explored more after the link jump. We have nothing near that for public schools in America. Kids in Taiwan also stay more days a year in school then U.S. students. This link explores Hong Kong schools: http://en.wikipedia.org... Hong Kong students spend roughly 195 days a year in school, and like the other two countries have a higher amount of work ethic and amount for their schools. To quote the link: "The current workload of a primary student in Hong Kong includes approximately 3 to 4 hours of schoolwork nightly." Does everyone notice a pattern? How school uniforms are barely mentioned if at all in these links? How more school work, days in a school year, and format are the reasons why these schools have the best scores on international tests. If my opponent truly wants to improve schools, I'd advise making a separate debate about changing the format of public schools. Adding school uniforms will do nothing but create a negative impact as I've shown throughout this debate. So therefore, logic says that CON (me) should win this debate. Other reasons why school uniforms are a bad idea: 6.) School uniforms would make students very identifiable outside of school and would make the divisions between schools wider. This would only lead to more bullying and fights to develop between students from rival schools as they travel to and from school. If my opponent does not believe such a thing could happen, I ask him and the reader to now look at the first, second, and third video in order in which rival schools fight at basketball and Lacrosse games where each side knows where the other stands obviously. In the first two videos, students and others from each school are fighting while in the third video it is the players from the schools who fight constantly throughout the game. http://www.youtube.com... http://www.youtube.com... http://www.youtube.com... 7.) Uniforms cause major discomfort to the student and therefore distract the student for learning. The uniforms which are particularly bad for girls who have to wear skirts. They have to wear them all year around, this includes in the coldest of winter months. There is also the hottest months of the year that can affect the student having to wear uniforms. 8.) This is related to #7 but a point all on it's own. This serves as a distraction for the teacher to make sure all teachers are enforcing said dress code and therefore takes time out of the class. This is bad both for the teacher who is now behind in teaching the class and the students who will be forced to learn something a little faster at the very least due to what should be a non-relevant issue like clothing except for the fact all students are now required to wear uniforms they don't like or want to wear. 9.) No substantial evidence offered by my own opponent as to why School Uniforms would be superior to regular clothing outside naming three countries that have the highest test scores for reasons I have listed above. With that, I do believe I have refuted all my opponent's points. I will sum up as to why exactly I have won this debate in the third round. So I would just like to thank my opponent for creating this debate and of course you the reader for taking the time out of your day/evening to read it. I cannot wait to see my opponent's 2nd round argument so we may continue this debate. Thank You

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-uniforms-should-be-required/1/
  • CON

    Why do we need the uniforms. It would just cost the...

    School Uniforms – Yes

    Why do we need the uniforms. It would just cost the school more money and not all kids can get a new clean unifrom in one day. if they wear it once and get it dirty it might take a few days to get it washed. Then if the school were to but two uniforms for the students then it would cost the schools even more money. (Think about how many students are in schools) School uniforms would be a wate of money and time.

    • https://debatewise.org/3367-school-uniforms-should-be-mandatory/
  • CON

    School uniforms will also cost a lot of money, and they...

    school uniforms

    School uniforms will also cost a lot of money, and they are not part of your everyday attire; they are extra clothes that the school expects the parents to pay for. Students will also not feel the freedom of wearing what they want to wear, and will not be able to become responsible for themselves.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/school-uniforms/71/
  • PRO

    Anyway, this is the conclusion round so... ......

    School Uniforms

    Sorry for your forfeiture. Anyway, this is the conclusion round so... Conclusion: I think that there should be Anyway, this is the conclusion round so... Conclusion: I think that there should be Conclusion: I think that there should be school uniforms.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/28/
  • PRO

    School uniforms should be required because of the...

    School Uniforms

    School uniforms should be required because of the following reasons: (1) It can prevent bullying as people will not be judged based on what they wear (2) Students will be tardy less as they won't need to spend as much time in the mornings preparing clothes. (3) It will make school more of a professional environment.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/85/
  • PRO

    You will argue that school uniforms should be required)...

    School Uniforms Should not be Required

    I will be pro, you will be con. (You will argue that school uniforms should be required) Round one is for acceptance only. My opening statement: (You will argue that school uniforms should be required) Round one is for acceptance only. My opening statement: School uniforms shouldn't be required because they create a sense of anti-individuality, going against the Freedom of Expression, being forced to choose clothing can help prepare children for the adult world, and requiring school uniforms causes rebellion among the general student population.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms-Should-not-be-Required/5/
  • PRO

    We aren't making them wear uniform all the time. ......

    School Uniforms

    They are welcome to express their individuality, just not at school. We aren't making them wear uniform all the time. School uniforms help children work in a more sophisticated and productive way.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/15/
  • CON

    The fact that all UK academies have strict rules on...

    School Uniforms are a good Idea

    The Guardian newspaper claims that school uniforms do not necessarily leed to good results. In fact one of the most up-and-coming schools in England does not require a school uniform--http://m.guardian.co.uk... Most websites that I've looked at suggest that the continued use of school uniforms is based almost entirely on tradition. The fact that all UK academies have strict rules on school uniforms ( also quoted on the above Guardian web page ) supports this claim. Governments like people to think that school uniforms leed to an increase in grade C-A* exam results as this shifts the cost on to the parents rather than the Dept. Of Education. Seeing as pro forfeit the previous round; I think that will do for now.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms-are-a-good-Idea/1/
  • PRO

    But many schools use the same uniforms so one of the kids...

    School uniforms

    Rebuttals: "Well buddy, when you rebuttal you are not supposed to be disrespectful or you will lose votes." This is not a valid rebuttal, you did not properly address my argument. "It tells people that you don't care for hygiene and it does show you are lazy because everyone knows you have more clothes and so do you. If you are just going to choose the same clothes over and over it will bother your surroundings." It will not bother your surroundings, and your first sentence makes no sense. "I agree with my opponent when she said: "With uniforms, it would be easier to understand if a child is in your school or not. Let's say you go on a field trip and your class splits up into 2 groups. Later it will be easier to find the other group because they are easily distinguished by their uniforms." But many schools use the same uniforms so one of the kids can wonder off and go into another school group and the teacher won't notice because that student has the same uniform." This is not an argument, this is another rebuttal. Also, you have agreed with me. Arguments: I would like to extend all my previous arguments. I would also like to say that Con has had no sources of proof. They have not displayed any sources, or addressed any of my arguments until round 4.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-uniforms/29/
  • PRO

    1] In having uniforms, children's grades would improve...

    School uniforms

    Rebuttals: "Uniqueness should be shown and not hidden. Everyone needs to be themselves and not care what everyone else thinks of them. I have no school uniform and everyone loves being themselves. It is how we get to know each other." You don't need clothing to express your individuality. There are many other ways, like through art. Also, you can show your individuality out of school. Arguments: Since kids won't have to choose clothes in the morning, they would be able to get ready faster. This would allow in more sleep, which is better for learning. [1] In having uniforms, children's grades would improve because of the bigger amount of sleep they would achieve. Also, the amount of peer pressure in school would diminish. People would not have to worry about having specific brands to be superior to others. And lastly, you could remove clothing related to gangs. This would offer a safer environment in school. In conclusion, uniforms would better school, and the students learning in it. source: 1.http://healthysleep.med.harvard.edu... I would like to remind people that this a quick debate, so I will have short arguments.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-uniforms/29/