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No school uniforms

"Nike is the uniform for kids all over the world. . . ""~ M. I. A. Nike is the everyday attire for kids all around the globe. People think that middle schools shouldn't have students wear school uniforms. There are many reasons why people think that middle schools shouldn't have uniforms such as everyday attire is more comfortable, It restricts students from expressing themselves, And it takes a shorter amount of time to get ready. Students want to be the most focused in school, So middle-schoolers would rather wear everyday attire because it is more comfortable. Many middle school students will agree with a writer who said: ". . . The uniforms can be very uncomfortable too tight or too loose. " (debate. Org) School uniforms can be so tight around the waist that students get a stomach ache. If middle-schoolers end up getting a stomach ache students will need to go to the office. This might cause students to miss school for the rest of the day which will put students behind in some classes. Missing class is a bad thing for students, So allowing middle If middle-schoolers end up getting a stomach ache students will need to go to the office. This might cause students to miss school for the rest of the day which will put students behind in some classes. Missing class is a bad thing for students, So allowing middle school students to wear comfortable or everyday attire such as Nike is helpful.

school uniforms

Uniforms are held to a specific standard when they are given to the school for re-use, just as if you were donating clothes to the needy. Children will not receive uniforms that are stained or worn down, they have to be in moderate shape. Kids at pubic school wear spandex to school and ill fitting clothing that isn't appropriate to wear to school. If the school isn't strict with their dress code, then children will be able to dress more freely.

School uniforms

Rebuttals: "When you get out of school you won't have uniform and then you will need to pick the clothes you want to wear. " When you get out of school you go home. Do you really chose a specific outfit to sit on the couch with? "People will just be lazy and pick the same clothes." Picking the same clothes does not make you lazy. "Also, children do need to be different from their surroundings." Not always, being the same can represent unity. "They need to learn how to be themselves and not follow their peers." With uniforms, you don't follow your peers, you follow the rules. With uniforms you learn how to listen to rules. Without uniforms, you would buy what your peers buy, if you actually read my arguments. Arguments: With uniforms, it would be easier to understand if a child is in your school or not. Let's say you go on a field trip and your class splits up into 2 groups. Later it will be easier to find the other group because they are easily distinguished by their uniforms. Con has not addressed ANY of my arguments. I have rendered ALL of her arguments, and created new firm ones. Con has repeated the same main argument with no supporting evidence: Kids need to express themselves.

School Uniforms

Many thanks to my opponent for continuing this debate. To address my opponent's first point regarding modest attire in schools. The school uniform is not an attempt to suppress individuality; there are plenty of other ways for a pupil to do that without clothes (by which I mean by deeds and words, not coming to school naked!) Regarding the issue of personal possessions in school, I can only point to my own experience of schools in England, where uniforms are compulsory. Items such as iPods, cell phones, MP3 players, etc. are not permitted on school grounds. This not only reduces the amount of bullying, but also theft. The issue of pride in a school is the same as pride in your hometown. It may be that a lad grows up in some rat-infested crack house on a desolate, windswept housing estate (project) in a neglected and rundown post-industrial city, but he will still support his local football (soccer) team with a passion. For better or worse, your school is part of your identity and you should be proud to defend it, especially in sports competitions against neighbouring schools. The cost of school uniforms, at least in England, is borne by the parents; only families on very low-incomes get vouchers from the education authority to pay for them, so uniforms do not make a large impact on schools' finances. Incidentally, school uniforms look very smart as the pictures below illustrate: http://www.etoncollege.com... http://images.inmagine.com... http://www.oakwoodschool.co.uk... I hope these comments have gone some way to allaying some of the reservations my opponent has about school uniforms. Thank you.

School Uniforms

School Uniforms enhance ones ability to learn where they do not have to worry about what others think of their clothes because they are all wearing the same. It saves time in the mornings, where you do not have to decide what your going to wear. Many kids can get bullied for not wearing designer, expensive clothes. So wearing the same uniform as others will prevent bullying. School uniforms prohibit one from feeling left out or different. It creates a feeling of oneness. It also prepares kids for future jobs that include uniforms along with the jobs.

Uniforms at School!

"Maybe. But with no statistics on what the bully would do, (Look for new things to make fun of him for or just stop) We can't use your argument as an assertion or proof that it will reduce bullying." I agree. However it is entirely likely that the only reason the bully was picking on the kid in the first place was because of what the kid was wearing. If clothing no longer mattered then this would no longer be a problem. "I really don't think that'd be a valid solution to the bullying problem, having a child stay home and hide doesn't seem like a very practical solution." Well you suggested that bullies would bully somebody over the weekends. I'm suggesting that the bully would not want to waste time looking for somebody to bully over the weekends. Usually this is done at school. But this is getting off topic. This debate is about uniforms. "And yet again, a person who cares deeply about how they look does not enjoy wearing an uncomfortable uniform. For example, girls often have to wear dresses or skirts, when they might feel more comfortable in trousers, and boys often have to wear button-up shirts and ties, which can also be uncomfortable for active children." Somebody who wore uniforms all his/her life would not nothing else. In other words, there would be different expectations on clothing and people would not feel uncomfortable. "Over what period of time?" Days, weeks, months. It varies. "Well, I did say that students who are self conscious about how they look would feel ridiculous in normal clothing let alone school uniforms. But I shall also assert that they are uncomfortable." Maybe uniforms are uncomfortable. Does that mean people have to be comfortable for every hour of their lives? Also, I would like to point out that with modern technology, uniforms can become very comfortable. As comfortable as regular clothes. "That's the point. There is not only one way to respect your area of education. Notice Pro has also ignored the question on why it is important to respect your school, rather than having a neutral view on it." Children get free education at school so yes, they should respect the school. "How do you think the Government would afford this? Where is the omens for this going to come from? It' not as if the Government has a magic pot of gold to fill every desire." For some reason, the government can afford tens of thousands of dollars on sports. New soccer and football fields every 10 years or so. So yes, I think the government/school can afford the money for uniforms. "Why not apply the same logic to dress codes? If the students always have dress codes, then they would get used to it. This could be comparable to getting used to uniforms." Students don't listen to dress codes. That is a big problem today. Also, if there were uniforms then there would be no need for dress codes. "Really. Show me your source that says this." Show me some sources that say otherwise. When I went to school, there were many people who noticeably wore different clothes every day (including shoes). Many people even admitted to wearing 7 different outfits per week. "The point was that you never justified taking away their rights to express themselves." There are many different ways to express yourself. My opponent will have to show that it is impossible to express yourself when kids have to wear uniforms. "I'm waiting to here back from Pro now. Many of the arguments/Questions were simply dropped." This is untrue. I responded to all of my opponents arguments. However it seems that my opponent has conceded to a couple of my arguments. I provided statistics that suggest that students do better at school if uniforms were put into place. Also, I explained how students who wear uniforms at school will learn how to dress appropriately when they have a job in the future. My opponent mostly responded to my arguments. He presented few of his own. I have shown that uniforms help students succeed. My opponent has shown that students would be unhappy if they were forced to wear uniforms. I countered this argument by showing that if students had never known anything besides uniforms then they would not be unhappy. My opponent constantly tried to say that I presented no proof. However my opponent didn't present too much either. He did not prove that bullies would find something else to bully about if a student wore uniforms. Also, my opponent never really proved that bullies would purposely try and seek out the person they want to bully over the weekends. This is all I have left to say. I would like to thank my opponent for this debate. Sources: http://www.greatschools.org...

School uniforms

REBUTTALS: " It is unlikely that all schools can be outfitted with fair trade clothing, since the US alone have 50 million children at school age . " The debate is weather school uniforms are beneficial or not to children in school. I am not saying that all schools should have them, so this argument is invalid. I am arguing how uniforms can be good, not how every school should have them. "You clearly state that the uniform would be worn at school while other clothes are worn outside of school. Since clothing needs to be washed at LEAST every two days, regardless how long you wear it on a particular day, due to the smell of sweat, the uniforms will in no way reduce the number of clothing pieces the pupils wear." But children would buy less clothes, they will still have clothes but less. This will be due to the fact they no longer have to wear a different pair of clothes each day. "For similar reasons, you need more than one set of uniform. You cannot wear one set of uniform for an entire week without washing. So you need more than one set of uniform, at least doubling the cost you claim. you claim that the clothing need not get dirty, but we are discussing children here. Many will be careless." First of all, you need to put a capital letter at the beginning of a sentence. If they are careless they won't wash it. And even if they do, this will be good for them. It will teach them responsibility, and if they don't want to use a washer, they can hand wash it themselves. This will give them more work, which teaches them many lessons. "By the numbers, even if only 10% of all children needed a sponsor, this would mean 5 million children, and by the cost we have established, this would equal 150$ x 2 (two sets) x 5 000 000 = 1.5 BILLION DOLLARS. This money would easily be better invested in books and computers. I also doubt there will be enough sponsors for that demand." Even if there weren't, they would at least help a family a bit. This would at least help them get the uniforms for less. "As established above, school uniforms are ADDITIONAL clothing. So they will also mean an additional poisoning the environment. Clothes in the numbers listed above are only produced on pre-order, so this is additional toxic waste." As mentioned above, this is not a debate saying all schools should have uniforms, it is a debate to explain why it would be beneficial. Also, if people bought less clothes, uniforms would take over of the carbon foot print created by normal clothes, which wouldn't add too much. And other things would add on either way. "But there's MORE clothes to wash, as shown above." It would be less, since you would buy less clothes, as I have been mentioning this entire debate. "That doesn't make them harmless. Even completely bio-degradable detergents cause problems" With no uniforms, children would have more clothes to wash, making them use these detergents even more. "But by your own account you argued there was no need to go against child labour, if it didn't make much of a difference. You're making up arguments opportunistically, to fit your very need. This is a contradiction. Also, I highly doubt that bullying would be effected in the least, as bullying because of clothing is just an expression of moral defects in the bullies. What you claim would be the equivalent of saying that giving a man in the rain a torn umbrella was better than nothing - yet he will be completely soaked, as the umbrella doesn't actually help getting the man out of the rain. Bullying must be counteracted with awareness programs, not by forcing children to wear clothes they did not chose for themselves - which is in itself a kind of suppression. How can suppressing your freedom protect you from your freedom being suppressed by bullies? In the end, bullies who didn't want the school uniforms will pick on the same children AGAIN because they have to wear these uniforms BECAUSE of their complaints about bullying. This will seriously not solve the problem." Uniforms only make you follow the rules in school. It teaches discipline, and only removes the freedom of clothing. This isn't even a freedom! Clothes are things you wear, and nothing more, so people shouldn't complain about not being able to wear something, if they all do the same thing. Your 2nd last sentence made no sense. Children would not end up wearing uniforms because someone complained about bullying! I am just saying that it would weaken bullying, and you have no effective way to counteract this. "Read "The Wave", an accurate account of an experiment on fascism conducted in a school some decades ago. Uniforms bring groups closer together and in conflict with other groups. That is why football teams have uniforms and mascots. This is to make them try harder to defeat the "others". Uniforms exist for discernment, or DISCRIMINATION as a synonym. It creates borders, dividing groups and creating group identities set against each other." It does not create borders, it is but a way to keep a school in discipline. And as you said they bring people together. It is better to have 1 friend and various enemies than to have no friends at all. "If parents were able to protect their children, there would be no bullying because of clothing right now, either. Parents cannot achieve this, nor can teachers." Parents don't always protect, but uniforms give them a smaller worry to have to. I have said this the entire debate. And you are unable to counteract it. "This is a circular argument. You DEFINE school uniforms as "appropriate" and other clothing as "inappropriate". Then you go on to explain that appropriate clothing is better, hence uniforms are better. Most schools have regulations against "revealing" clothing, and children break these rules. What makes you believe that a rule to wear school uniforms would fare any better? " Not wearing uniforms have a greater consequence. So since they would wear their uniforms, they would be too worried to dress inappropriately. "How about parents - you gave responsibility to them with your "walking home" argument above - simply teach their children not to be so picky about their clothes? Ultimately, your "argument" is a disguised repetition of your - self-admittedly weak - bullying argument. Children need to pick clothes carefully because of the fear of bullying. It wouldn't be long before bullying took another form, for instance freckles or spots. Then the same amount of time would be needed to cover those up before class, resulting in the same problem of sleep-deprivation. Bullying exists and is undesirable, so pupils subjected to it will always try to find ways to counteract it. These protective measures will always consume time. So if bullying is not ended, there will not be additional time for sleep. Here's a simple solution to the sleep problem, though: pick clothes the evening before, have them ready when you wake up. No hasty decisions needed in the morning while you are not yet fully functional due to sleep-deprivation." Some people have a lot to do the evening before, which doesn't give them time to. So in the morning they do. With uniforms you wouldn't have this problem of having to choose. Summarize: Uniforms would be beneficial for students and their learning patterns. This would be also help them with responsibility. Furthermore, it would weaken bullying. Children would have less clothes, saving them money, and all parents would be able to afford them. My opponent was unable to effectively render any of my arguments invalid. Furthermore, he tries to always bring everything back to the "bullying" aspect, and while he does so, he completely ignores the argument he is supposed to be rebutting. Also, he put a lower case letter various times at the beginning of his sentences. Because of such, I urge you to vote for pro.