PRO

  • PRO

    Every argument I hear is so contradictory in that the say...

    School Uniforms

    My argument for school uniforms is that there is absolutley no reason why people hate them. Every argument I hear is so contradictory in that the say they want people to express the selves, and that they think uniforms cost too much. As an example, my school uniforms cost about $20 for the shirt, and khakis can be anywhere from $15-100 but those "ber expensive ones are designer, and you can find them much cheaper at an economy store like Marshalls. And you only need 3-5 shirts and 3 pants. That's just about $2-300 for clothes. As a note, my school has dressdown days about once every two weeks, and most of the kids who dress down usually wear a lot. Dresses that cost tons, designer jeans that cost tons, and sometimes it's inappropriate. When you let kids dress down, normally when it's warm enough out they reveal a lot of skin. It's a school not a fashion show. I figure that's good enough for an opening statement, it would be nice to have someone point out things that I miss.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/24/
  • PRO

    That's across the board. ... Thank you.

    School Uniforms

    I. Intro Essentially my opponent has made no argument as to why dress codes are harmful, only why they are not beneficial. I'll start by making a refutation against the single far-fetched harm she provided, and follow with case defense. II. Kidnapper In instances where an unwelcome intruder is on school property, they will be easy to identify amidst a sea of individuals in the same clothing. Additionally, should a kidnapping take place, a school uniform would actually help locate the kidnapped individual, as my opponent seems to agree that few people not attending such a school would wear such clothing. Therefore, it is going to be unique, stand out, and be identified easily in the outside world. Even on this one in a million chance issue, you're going to vote Pro as uniforms help solve the issue. III. Cost You have to buy new clothes whenever children grow. That's across the board. Whether uniform or not, hand-me-downs, Goodwill, etc. are options for those that really can not afford it. Those that can afford it but would benefit by not having to pay for it receive a larger benefit from uniforms, and represent a larger segment of the population. All things considered, uniforms save money. IV. Gangs School dress codes don't say things like "no wearing red" (Bloods) or "no black and gold" (Latin Kings) because literally every color would end up being banned even if (despite being extremely unlikely) gang insignia were prohibited, outlawing "gang colors" would outlaw literally every single color available, as every color is claimed by at least one gang. Uniforms discourage gang violence and recruiting, and this has been empirically proven via my study. IV. Academic Performance "...even if there was ONE study...there's no proof that it can improve performance internationally..."-Con A. Nothing in the resolution says implies international. As most DDO users are American I assumed it to be American based B. The BoP is impossible if I'm to prove every single school ever has to improve with uniforms C. That's my one study to Con's zero D. My study analyzed 64 different schools, so it's really a meta-analysis "Many schools with uniforms are private, which would explain the higher graduation rate, even without a uniform policy. " -Con Obviously my opponent didn't look into my source, which specifically references improvement shown when analyzing the grades and graduation rate in 64 schools before and after they implemented uniforms. Uniforms were the only independent variable, and the research shows they improve performance. V. Conclusion Con has provided literally no legitimate arguments against uniforms, while I have provided three concrete, strong arguments in favor of them. Con has also questioned the validity of my data despite having provided literally zero pieces of evidence to support the claims she has made. The resolution is therefore still affirmed. Thank you.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/69/
  • PRO

    School uniforms are an act of defiance against the state...

    School Uniforms

    School uniforms are an act of defiance against the state as it exists. Any way to criticise the state so openly is through its future -- therefore, it can be seen that schools are the best way to do this. I concede my opponent saying that uniforms are unconstitutional - but this is the exact reason why they are such a good thing. School uniforms are an act of defiance against the Empire Charlie Post, Review of Empire, 2002 According to Hardt and Negri 'the multitude has internalized the lack of place and fixed time; it is mobile and flexible, and it conceives the future only as a totality of possibilities that branch out in every direction.' (p. 380) Almost any act of 'negativity' - the refusal to work, migration from one part of the world to another, confrontations with the police, strike action - are equally powerful forms of resistance because 'the construction of Empire, and the globalization of economic and cultural relationships, means that the virtual center of Empire can be attacked from any point.' (p. 59) Our act of defiance is directly attacking the norms that exist, the laws that are in place. Our act is an act of negativity - and this is the only way to attack the Empire. The Empire has a tri-fecta of methods to intervene; The Empire can crush everyone militarily, morally, or judicially. Michael Hardt and Antonio Negri, [Prof @ Duke;Prof @ ColleL8;ge International de Philosophie, 2000 “Empire” Harvard University Press, http://www.angelfire.com...] explain in detail that the Empire in the status quo can exist to crush anyone under any means that they deem necessary - the status quo of Empire loving and the rejection of school uniforms furthers this power, and will crush the future. Government coercion causes the worst atrocities in history – every coercive policy justifies atrocities like the nightmares of Cambodia, the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany Browne '95 explains in depth that government coercion (see, government intervention within stopping school uniforms) gives the state unbelievable power. When we don't criticise, we give them the power to commit the worst atrocities in history - we can only stop another Holocaust if we affirm. So, yeah, government is bad m'kay?

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/59/
  • PRO

    School uniforms are the logical answer to school dress...

    School Uniforms

    School uniforms are the logical answer to school dress code complaints and help prevent bullying based on clothes

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/63/
  • PRO

    It's quick and easy because it's the same outfit...

    School Uniforms

    I believe school uniforms should be worn. School uniforms have a lot of benefits. When you're rushing around in the morning trying to get ready and find clothes to wear, a uniform could be a great help. It's quick and easy because it's the same outfit everyday, and you don't have to worry about picking out/finding different clothes to wear every day. Also, if everyone in school is wearing the same uniform, it decreases the amount of judgment towards other people's clothing. A uniform creates no sense of individuality, but that is not important at school, because we are at school to learn, and our outfits have nothing to do with it. Nobody's uniform is going to cause distraction to a learning process.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/42/
  • PRO

    Ok say you have the son of an oil tycoon and the son of a...

    School Uniforms benefit schools

    Uniforms reduce the individuality of the student In what way does the individuality of the student benefit the school? 2. Classism Uniforms cost far less than normal clothes and there are back to school sales at the end of every summer. Its funny how you refer to the students that cannot afford uniforms as lower class students. "This is clearly classism and blatantly discriminatory" Uniforms are cheap. A lower class parent(as you would call them) would be far more likely to opt to send his/her child to a school in which uniforms must be worn as it would save him/her from having to provide different clothes for the 5 days of the week. It would also spare the child the embarassment of wearing the same old tattered clothes to school everyday clearly identifying him/her as poor. Not that this is anything to be ashamed of, but kids are cruel. 3. Equality What? How? I'd have said the exact opposite. Ok say you have the son of an oil tycoon and the son of a poor man attending the same school in which uniforms must be worn. Does the uniform not show them that no matter where they came from that they're all the same? And now for a few of the reasons why I believe uniforms benefit schools. 1. Less distractions Uniforms take away worries like "what am I going to wear tomorrow" which allows more time for study and organisation. They hide the figures of girls far better than what they would usually wear which allows the likes of me to stay concentrated on my studies. So uniforms allow for more study, which would cause the average marks of a school to rise and theres surely extra funding granted to schools with high marks, so uniforms benefit schools. 2. Security. In a school with uniforms any outsiders entering the school would stand out allowing for security to pick up on them a lot easier. I'd write more but I'm wrecked.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms-benefit-schools/1/
  • PRO

    I shall begin by refuting all points given thus far, then...

    School Uniforms

    I thank my opponent for creating this debate. I will now begin to make an argument, and hope my opponent does not forfeit, like people usually do. I shall begin by refuting all points given thus far, then I shall procede to my main contentions. REFUTATIONS " One, they take a way personality." This is a false statement, and an overused one at that. Showing your personality can been done in various different ways, clothing isn't the only one. In fact, various kids don't even try to show their personality through clothing. Most kids do it by their skills in school, such as sports and art. Having uniforms would take away only 1 very rare possibility to express yourself, out of the many other ways. "Two, everyone would be in the same colors. " Is there something wrong with people wearing the same colors? If anything, it represents unity, something many school lack these days. "And three, there would be no entire student body that would be jumping and partying for uniforms." No entire student body supports math class, does that mean we ban it? Of course not! Regardless if students support or not, it benefits the I shall begin by refuting all points given thus far, then I shall procede to my main contentions. REFUTATIONS " One, they take a way personality." This is a false statement, and an overused one at that. Showing your personality can been done in various different ways, clothing isn't the only one. In fact, various kids don't even try to show their personality through clothing. Most kids do it by their skills in school, such as sports and art. Having uniforms would take away only 1 very rare possibility to express yourself, out of the many other ways. "Two, everyone would be in the same colors. " Is there something wrong with people wearing the same colors? If anything, it represents unity, something many school lack these days. "And three, there would be no entire student body that would be jumping and partying for uniforms." No entire student body supports math class, does that mean we ban it? Of course not! Regardless if students support or not, it benefits the Showing your personality can been done in various different ways, clothing isn't the only one. In fact, various kids don't even try to show their personality through clothing. Most kids do it by their skills in school, such as sports and art. Having uniforms would take away only 1 very rare possibility to express yourself, out of the many other ways. "Two, everyone would be in the same colors. " Is there something wrong with people wearing the same colors? If anything, it represents unity, something many school lack these days. "And three, there would be no entire student body that would be jumping and partying for uniforms." No entire student body supports math class, does that mean we ban it? Of course not! Regardless if students support or not, it benefits the school. Now for my arguments. I am treating this as a somewhat satire debate. First of all, it weakens bullying. Half of school girls get bullied due to appearance. With uniforms, this doesn't happen, because everyone has the same clothes. [1] Secondly, it prevents innapropriate clothing, but still has hot girls! Beautifull babes in school, without getting in trouble! Everyone wins! And lastly, children get more sleep not having to choose an outfit in the morning. Sleep is very important. [2] It improves your learning patterns, and is for your own well being. As you can see uniforms give us various benefits, and most imporantly HOT GIRLS! [1]http://www.dailymail.co.uk... [2]http://sleepfoundation.org...

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/37/
  • PRO

    Not only do they bother other people, but they are also...

    School Uniforms

    "They throw students off focus and fail. Not only do they bother other people, but they are also horrible!" As the instigator you have the burden of proof to prove that claim. I claim the contrary however. Schools that have made it a requirement to wear Not only do they bother other people, but they are also horrible!" As the instigator you have the burden of proof to prove that claim. I claim the contrary however. Schools that have made it a requirement to wear uniforms have reported increased attendance and graduation rates among their students. [1][2] The countries of Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong, and Japan, have the highest average 8th grade math scores and are far above average.[3] The countries of Hong Kong, Singapore, Tawian, and Japan, have the highest average 4th grade math score and again, score far above average. [3] All of these countries require their students to wear uniforms nationwide. [4] I fail to see how your claim, "They throw students off focus and fail", hold any merit seeing that many schools report that their students graduate more often after making uniforms mandatory and that the countries that have the highest average scores in math require their students to wear school uniforms nationwide. [1] http://www.woio.com... (Study claiming uniforms help increase in graduation rates and attendance) [2] http://findarticles.com... (Study claiming uniforms helped decrease absentees and crime rates) [3] http://nces.ed.gov... (Average math scores of countries) [4] http://en.wikipedia.org... (Countries that require school uniforms)

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/7/
  • PRO

    It would suffice to identify the team players if, say,...

    School uniforms should be required

    For this debate a "school uniform" is a specific design for clothing designated to be worn while attending academic classes at a school. The school context comprises grades one through twelve of public and private schools in the United States. Different schools and different grades within schools may have different uniforms, as determined by parents and school administration. The paradigm is that of Japanese schools, as shown in anime (http://answers.yahoo.com...). The reasons for requiring uniforms are: 1) It promotes identity with the school and class, which emphasizes the common educational purpose. It puts everyone in the same boat so they are more likely to help each other succeed. This is a reason why players on sports teams wear identical uniforms. It would suffice to identify the team players if, say, one team wore predominantly red and the other predominantly blue, or even just predominantly dark and light. Yet there is widespread agreement that having identical uniforms is important for the team psychology. 2) It removes the distractions of fashion trends and fashion competition from school hours, thereby reinforcing the educational purpose of the enterprise. It helps students focus. 3) It teaches boys to be neat and girls to be attractive. 4) It encourages students to evaluate people by their behavior and personality rather than by their manner of dress. 5) It allows individuals to express themselves in fashion outside of school, which reinforces the distinct nature of the educational environment. School uniforms in Japan coexist with cosplay outside of school. There are many factors that go into overall academic performance, so certainly school uniforms are not the only thing that counts. Nonetheless, the countries that score best on international tests (Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan) are those that have the tradition of school uniforms. We may therefore reasonably conclude that it makes a positive contribution to having a serious attitude towards education. Uniforms contribute to the educational process.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-uniforms-should-be-required/1/
  • PRO

    Should or shouldn't there be school uniforms!!

    School UNiforms

    Should or shouldn't there be school uniforms!!

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-UNiforms/49/

CON

  • CON

    there should not be school uniforms

    school uniforms

    there should not be school uniforms

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/school-uniforms/13/
  • CON

    Should school uniforms be allowed?

    School Uniforms

    Should school uniforms be allowed?

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/42/
  • CON

    If all jobs required that, then it would be a completely...

    School Uniforms

    Amendment one provides the freedom of speech, press, expression, and the right to assemble. The way one dresses is a form of free speech and expression. Requiring students to wear uniforms goes against the first amendment. Just because minors are in school, does not strip them of their amendment rights. People are fully accessible to 100% of the same rights they have in and out of school. Forcing students to wear uniforms is technically against the law. Instead of teaching the youth to not wear clothes in fear of being "bullied," how about stopping the bullies themselves? This relates to many other topics. You would not tell a women to stop wearing exposing clothing because she is deemed as a "slut" or "prostitute" or "free property etc." to others, would you now? We teach our youth generation to be themselves and express themselves with confidence. This would send the wrong message and would be contradictory to what educators said in the past. The difference is, not all jobs require uniforms. It is the person's choice to choose to join such a job that requires a uniform. If all jobs required that, then it would be a completely different story. But that is just not the case. Schools that force students to wear uniforms give them no choice in their own amendment and freedom rights. It is a different story to have uniforms in private schools because the students consent to the wardrobe, and can just transfer to a public school if they are not happy with it. Feeling "left out" or "different" is another way one says that people are dressing to their own style and fashion. And if that means that a group of kids wear one article of clothing, and other group wears a different article, it is completely fine. One group is no superior to the other, and in reality, nobody is being "left out" or "dis included" when they are given the option to their freedom of expression.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/61/
  • CON

    School uniforms limit creativity in children.

    School Uniforms

    School uniforms limit creativity in children.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-Uniforms/73/
  • CON

    Opinion: Uniforms should not be allowed in the AISE....

    We need school uniforms

    Opinion: Uniforms should not be allowed in the AISE. Source #1: Students will focus in class and they won"t be interrupted by what others are wearing. Facts: Normal clothes interrupt students and they will concentrate on their clothes than on their learning Source #2: Students will get better grades and they will be successful Facts: Uniforms makes students look unique Source #3: It is easy to know students belong to which school from their uniforms Facts: Uniforms are helpful Opinion: Uniforms aren"t comfortable Source #1: Most people think they are baggy and they don"t feel comfortable in the uniforms Facts: Uniforms don"t let kids express their taste in clothes Source #2 Fashion changes every year but uniforms stay the same Facts: If we have uniforms, the models and the colors are the choice of the school administration not us. Source #3: Each school has its own set of uniforms, different colors and models. Facts: Uniforms save time Opinion: It takes no time to get ready for school in the morning when one is wearing a uniform Source #1: Uniforms don"t change and are bought at the start of the year Facts: Uniform shops are open before school starts and students buy a stock that will last for the full year Source #2: Some items of the uniform can be worn more than once Facts: Jackets and pullovers don"t have to be washed every day Source #3: Uniforms save a lot of time for students as they do not have to choose among different items Facts: More time is spent on choosing what to wear during the weekend and holidays

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/We-need-school-uniforms/1/
  • CON

    Along with uniforms, the school also developed new...

    School uniforms should be required

    School uniforms themselves don't reduce the crime and violence in schools, it is the strict discipline and the way the school operates. Uniforms are simply a band-aid on school violence. Long Board simply has a better program and ways to keep the kids in order and motivate them. Along with uniforms, the school also developed new policies and regulations in order to bring the violence down. Also, what was the violence like before uniforms? It's not impressive that it dropped 90% if there was little bullying in the first place. To conclude, uniforms prevent kids from expressing themselves, it limits their options of what to wear and can affect their decision making skills later in life. Uniforms can cost a lot depending on what school it is. Uniforms can be uncomfortable, and therefore can limit student's attention span and learning ability. And lastly, it's just plain boring, seeing the same clothes over and over, being just like everyone else. Weren't we taught that being exactly the same is bad? That we should stand out? Thank you for a good debate, best of luck to your future ones.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-uniforms-should-be-required/2/
  • CON

    I think That School Uniforms Should Of Never Been Invented.

    school uniforms

    I think That School Uniforms Should Of Never Been Invented.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/school-uniforms/20/
  • CON

    School Uniforms aren't the best because kids can not show...

    School uniforms

    School Uniforms aren't the best because kids can not show their uniqueness, and their differences from everyone else.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-uniforms/29/
  • CON

    3. community a) While some claim that school uniforms...

    School uniforms

    I want to thank my opponent for the opportunity. I will present four levels of counter-arguments. 1. economy: While the clothes industry might profit from sales if every household needed to be outfitted with several sets of uniforms, this is not per se a good thing: a) Clothing would need to be produced cheaply if school uniforms became standard. So most likely, the uniforms would be produced in third-world countries, employing slave and child labour. b) Who's going to pay for the uniforms? The parents? This seems very hard on poor families who are underprivileged already. The schools? School money comes from parents (see a)) or some public source. Public funds are needed for more important matters than additional clothing for children who have clothes of their own. The state? See b). A mixed system where rich parents pay themselves while others get help from public sources? This necessitates a public authority/agency, which will consume even more money for administration. 2. ecology a) Toxic chemicals are often used in the production of cheap clothing in third-world countries (see 1.a)). They are subsequently dumped in rivers or oceans, poisoning the ecosystem. b) Additional clothing will need to be laundered. This is a waste of drinking water. Also, detergents are a burden on the environment if not disposed of properly, which will most often not be the case. 3. community a) While some claim that school uniforms would help fight bullying because poor children will no longer be distinguishable from rich children by their clothing, there will always be bullying. Bullying is a symptom, not the source. f some children want to vent their anger and frustration, they will always find alleged "reasons". If it's not the clothing, it's the haircut or accessories. If we counter-act by giving children identical haircuts and banning accessories, it will be the colour of their hair or skin. Clothes do not generate hatred. Bad education does. The same goes for gangs, obviously. If gang members can no longer identify each other by wearing certain clothes, they will share the same haircut, like skinheads do anyway. b) Children in one school may be forged together and bullying may be reduced, for argument's sake. But on their way home, they might meet children from other schools. While previously, two kids meeting on their way home would just be two kids, now they would be pupils of rivaling schools. Bullying might ensue, this time on larger scale, between schools. Incidents of that kind have happened between uniformed athletes from rivaling schools already. Do we want that to expand on all pupils? Imagine the football team of one school encountering the chess club of the other on their respective ways home. The risk of the athletes picking on the weaker children from the other school would be higher than without uniforms. 4. personal growth a) What would children learn from their uniforms? Nothing but to be superficial and shallow, laying weight on outward appearance. For some reason obscure to them, they would be made wear a uniform to discern them from other pupils from other schools. So they will see differences where there are none (see 3b)). This will not only gain them nothing, as bullying will find other ways of expressing itself, it will also turn their attention towards clothing and probably more superficial details, as now they will be forced to describe others not by their clothes but by irrelevant details when talking with others. The "girl with the bright leggings" will now be "the girl with the freckles and the little wart under her right ear", for lack of other identifying details. So children will be raised to see every imperfection, which will also amplify the process of bullying as described under 3a). b) Clothing is an expression of your personality. We have the right to express ourselves any way we want. Taking that right away is crippling our civil rights in general, as they are impartial. If a child wants to wear a CareBears T-shirt with My Little Pony skirt, let him or her be happy! c) Somehow, we all need to learn how to defend ourselves against bullies. Clothing as a target is relatively harmless. I would rather see a coloured child be harassed for their Star Wars sneakers than for their ethnicity. Being bullied for clothing is not nice, but it doesn't hurt as much, and our children have relatively safe ground to learn how to defend themselves without being mentally scarred for life. They'll soon enough tire of their outfits. So, in conclusion: we gain nothing from school uniforms that wouldn't be outweighed by severely harmful consequences. Great Britain's elite boarding schools are a living example for snobbism as a result of school uniforms. Children will stand aside in awe when the elite scholars pass. And if they are lucky, they will be ignored rather than bullied.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/School-uniforms/30/
  • CON

    School uniforms are not good, because they take Way our...

    school uniforms

    School uniforms are not good, because they take Way our individuality

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/school-uniforms/66/