• PRO

    How many replies does schools get because they have...

    School uniforms should be banned

    Thank you opponent, I hope the same as you. Words from an study of Arizona State University: "Public School Uniforms: Effect on Perceptions of Gang Presence, School Climate, and Student Self-Perception," I am in favour in this debate. I think school uniforms should be ban. Children' freedom is restricted with school uniforms. Students should be able to wear the clothes that they want to express their style. Why not to create a dress code instated of having uniforms? Like this, students will look well and can wear what they want. There are many students that infringe the uniform code because they don't feel comfortable with the clothes of it, but in my personal opinion it would be easier to follow a dress code with clothes chosen by students, because it's what they like and since they feel comfortable with their clothes, they will make a little effort to look more pretty following the school dress codes. How many replies does schools get because they have school uniforms? A lot. Sometimes boys look under the girls' skirt. Many people reply school uniforms are uncomfortable or ugly. So to stop get g this replies, school should abolish uniforms. It would not be that easy for your parents to find you if you are wearing the same clothes that everyone is wearing. I think that since people are young, they have to learn that everyone is different and this is limited with school uniforms, because everyone wears the same thing. Students can express their creativity and individuality choosing the clothes that they are going to wear and this can make them know that they have some likes that are different from other people. If schools have uniforms, that will be the only option for kids to wear and, what happens if a kid don't find his/her size? It would be difficult for parents, they will have to search someone that make the uniform or buy an smaller or bigger size for the kid, but without uniforms, kids will have a lot of options to wear and that problem will go out. Uniforms can decrease self-esteem. Instated of increasing it, many students can dislike the way they look with uniforms because their image is not the best, it is just limited If you think that wearing school uniforms reduce bullying, you are totally wrong. A 1999 study conducted by experts from Texas Southern University showed that bullying incidents increased 12%, after the implementation of mandatory uniform wearing in schools. Uniforms are boring. The way in which I understand this point is thinking that seeing the same clothes over and over again can make people to get tired of doing it. Also because of the colours: uniforms just have between 2 and 5 colours! This will make also people being tired of seeing the same colours lot of times. I think schools uniforms should be banned for schools to stop receiving reapplies, for student's freedom, and for all the reasons mentioned above.Dress codes instead will work. Good luck opponent!

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  • CON

    3. community a) While some claim that school uniforms...

    School uniforms

    I want to thank my opponent for the opportunity. I will present four levels of counter-arguments. 1. economy: While the clothes industry might profit from sales if every household needed to be outfitted with several sets of uniforms, this is not per se a good thing: a) Clothing would need to be produced cheaply if school uniforms became standard. So most likely, the uniforms would be produced in third-world countries, employing slave and child labour. b) Who's going to pay for the uniforms? The parents? This seems very hard on poor families who are underprivileged already. The schools? School money comes from parents (see a)) or some public source. Public funds are needed for more important matters than additional clothing for children who have clothes of their own. The state? See b). A mixed system where rich parents pay themselves while others get help from public sources? This necessitates a public authority/agency, which will consume even more money for administration. 2. ecology a) Toxic chemicals are often used in the production of cheap clothing in third-world countries (see 1.a)). They are subsequently dumped in rivers or oceans, poisoning the ecosystem. b) Additional clothing will need to be laundered. This is a waste of drinking water. Also, detergents are a burden on the environment if not disposed of properly, which will most often not be the case. 3. community a) While some claim that school uniforms would help fight bullying because poor children will no longer be distinguishable from rich children by their clothing, there will always be bullying. Bullying is a symptom, not the source. f some children want to vent their anger and frustration, they will always find alleged "reasons". If it's not the clothing, it's the haircut or accessories. If we counter-act by giving children identical haircuts and banning accessories, it will be the colour of their hair or skin. Clothes do not generate hatred. Bad education does. The same goes for gangs, obviously. If gang members can no longer identify each other by wearing certain clothes, they will share the same haircut, like skinheads do anyway. b) Children in one school may be forged together and bullying may be reduced, for argument's sake. But on their way home, they might meet children from other schools. While previously, two kids meeting on their way home would just be two kids, now they would be pupils of rivaling schools. Bullying might ensue, this time on larger scale, between schools. Incidents of that kind have happened between uniformed athletes from rivaling schools already. Do we want that to expand on all pupils? Imagine the football team of one school encountering the chess club of the other on their respective ways home. The risk of the athletes picking on the weaker children from the other school would be higher than without uniforms. 4. personal growth a) What would children learn from their uniforms? Nothing but to be superficial and shallow, laying weight on outward appearance. For some reason obscure to them, they would be made wear a uniform to discern them from other pupils from other schools. So they will see differences where there are none (see 3b)). This will not only gain them nothing, as bullying will find other ways of expressing itself, it will also turn their attention towards clothing and probably more superficial details, as now they will be forced to describe others not by their clothes but by irrelevant details when talking with others. The "girl with the bright leggings" will now be "the girl with the freckles and the little wart under her right ear", for lack of other identifying details. So children will be raised to see every imperfection, which will also amplify the process of bullying as described under 3a). b) Clothing is an expression of your personality. We have the right to express ourselves any way we want. Taking that right away is crippling our civil rights in general, as they are impartial. If a child wants to wear a CareBears T-shirt with My Little Pony skirt, let him or her be happy! c) Somehow, we all need to learn how to defend ourselves against bullies. Clothing as a target is relatively harmless. I would rather see a coloured child be harassed for their Star Wars sneakers than for their ethnicity. Being bullied for clothing is not nice, but it doesn't hurt as much, and our children have relatively safe ground to learn how to defend themselves without being mentally scarred for life. They'll soon enough tire of their outfits. So, in conclusion: we gain nothing from school uniforms that wouldn't be outweighed by severely harmful consequences. Great Britain's elite boarding schools are a living example for snobbism as a result of school uniforms. Children will stand aside in awe when the elite scholars pass. And if they are lucky, they will be ignored rather than bullied.

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  • PRO

    See, if they were wearing a designated uniform, it would...

    school uniforms

    First off, I guess this is a controversial issue so I'll do it. Bear in mind that this is my first time. ~~ You say that school uniforms are expensive, you think non school uniforms are much cheaper? Finance regarding buying both school and non-school uniforms will always be a problem. Also, kids aren't the nicest nowadays; I know for a fact that the richer kids will bully the poorer kids for not wearing popular branded clothes. So by saying you want non-school uniform all the time, you're indirectly promoting bullying. You say and I quote "Having kids all wear the same thing can make a harmful envirement for kids to learn." It's actually the opposite As sad as it is to say, you can tell how a person is doing financially by what they wear; kids don't want their peers to know their parents may be having financial problems. If everyone is wearing the exact same thing, no one will find out about any of the problems they may have outside school. The idea of expressing yourself clothes-wise is ludicrous. When in school, that's not the way you should be expressing yourself; you SHOULD be expressing yourself with vast knowledge of the subjects you learn, playing well in sports. Of course there's the fact it'll improve general appearances for the future but that's not a very strong argument so you can disregard that. But now, here's the gruesome part: What if there was a major accident and a kid was lost? How would you describe that kid? See, if they were wearing a designated uniform, it would be a lot easier to pin-point those who ever appeared in situations like that. And believe it or not, these things do happen often. In conclusion, everyone wearing the same thing will prevent bullying, save lives and you don't need to express yourself via clothes. I agree that non-school uniform days should happen every so often but not everyday; we don't need that at all.

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  • PRO

    Additionally, school uniforms create conformity to equal...

    School uniforms

    I am quick to notice your sudden change of vernacular. I do not suspect plagiarism, but I think you can understand my suspicion. Nonetheless, this is not a debate over expression. School is, and always has been, a public or private institution in which you are taught a basic curriculum. Additionally, school uniforms create conformity to equal rules, rather then creating a disparity between females and males. The largest argument I see relating to this issue is that men are allowed to lower their pants while women are not allowed to show their shoulders. If we instituted an elaborate program, in which all students, were forced to wear a uniform, then these issues would secede. Additionally, school uniforms will eliminate clothing based bullying, as everyone will wear the same outfit. It will also eliminate any ability to wear anything related or attuning to a gang or juvenile and criminal institution. http://www.listland.com...

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  • PRO

    I totally think kids should wear school uniforms they...

    school uniforms

    I totally think kids should wear school uniforms they would look so dignified

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  • CON

    School uniforms are not good, because they take Way our...

    school uniforms

    School uniforms are not good, because they take Way our individuality

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  • CON

    By saying "Cliques lead to all sorts of problems, such as...

    Uniforms should be worn in school

    "By saying "Cliques lead to all sorts of problems, such as bulling, exclusion, and more." you are saying that not wear uniforms can lead to bullying and the act of excluding which is as same as my point. " Incorrect. I am saying that wearing uniforms leads to this, not the other way around. This is my point: 1. Unless all students wear the same uniform (which I will assume they do not), those who have them are perceived as different from the others, because they have the uniform to a particular club and the rest of the school does not. 2. This creates a social divide, which may create problems and cliques that students think are more important than grades or school work. 3. Therefore, uniforms should not be worn in school. (Again, this is from the school's perspective.) My opponent's points do not conclude pro's side of the debate. If all of these points are allowed to stand, then I have won this debate. Proving that uniforms should not be worn in school is the only thing I have to do, as con. I have done that, but my opponent has not done anything of the sort for Pro's argument. Pro's first points: 1 & 2 is completely false if I mention that all students are not required to wear uniforms. If this was one of your assumptions, you should have stated it in the first round. 3. How do they increase self confidence? Give me a reference. 4. Show me this study. If I can't see it, it doesn't exist. 5. This may be true, but have you considered hat uniforms could be even more distracting? 6. Same as 4. Pro's latest points: 1. You need to prove relevance. Why does this lead to the conclusion that uniforms should be worn in school? 2. Same as above. 3. Does this lead to the school being better off? I still do not understand the relevance. In conclusion, I have made points that logically lead to proving that uniforms should not be worn in school, but my opponent has not proven anything.

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  • PRO

    Boy do I hate how I am mentioning all of my arguments in...

    School uniforms

    I thank con for accepting. I am excited to commence. Quick notes: Because con wrote a lot, I will not be quoting his arguments in my rebuttals. I thank con for displaying his arguments using a text book style. (basically doing things like "1a") I will simplify my rebuttals. I will rebutting like the following : "a) chickens are good" Most of my arguments will be repeated from my rebuttals, since they are very similar. Rebuttals: 1. a) Child labour is not necessarily bad. It is a cheap way for people to produce items. Furthermore, it is a way for poor families to pay off their debt. Further more, children learn lessons such as discipline. Also, if it were to become standard, parents would have to approve of such. And if they do not agree with child labour, they will not allow it, and find safer better ways to produce the uniforms. There are fair-trade clothing stores. [1] Fair-trade is basically fairness and principals in the market. [2] So no slaves are used. School would possibly use these stores in order to have a higher standard and more support in for the school. b) The average cost for a uniform is 156$ for girls and 140$ for boys. [3] Since you are using this the entire year, you would buy much less clothes. If you were to not have uniforms, you would by many clothes. equalling much higher than this number, making it suitable for all incomes. Also there are sponsor programs to get the uniforms. [4] Also, even without the uniforms, there would still be child labour, so there would be no big difference. 2. a. All clothes would do the same, so it would not matter if it was a school uniform or not. b. Since you would have less clothes, there would be less clothes to wash. Also there are eco friendly detergents. [5] And as long as you don't get dirty, you can easily wear the uniform again. 3. Boy do I hate how I am mentioning all of my arguments in the rebuttals. a. Bullying can come from clothing, and even though bullying would not become completely nullified, it will be weakened, which is better than nothing. b. This is not true. Just because someone wears a uniform doesn't mean they will fight with others. This is a hasty generalization. Furthermore, many parents walk home with their students, so they would stop a fight if one were to occur. 4. a. However this bullying already exist and is already practised. With or without uniforms, it will occur, but with uniforms, you will get rid of bullying through clothing. b. This is unimportant. There are many ways to show yourself in school, and let's face it, clothing is not often used. You can express yourself through art, and through your work. Also you need not express yourself at school, this can distract other students. Also, you can show yourself outside of school as well. c. With or without uniforms, people still get bullied for their skin. So it doesn't matter. At least with uniforms, they nullify the bullying through clothing. And also, if you ask me, getting bullied because you have bad clothes because you are pour is worst than getting bullied because you are African. I would like to point out that my opponent only mentioned small scenarios that practically never happen. He states possible consequences that very few would actually experience. Because of such, the majority of his arguments are useless. Now finally, for my arguments! ARGUMENTS: For this debate, I will be saying 4 main arguments explaining why school uniforms would be beneficial to students, and everyone else. First of all, less bullying. A lot of children are affected by bullying because of their clothing. Some people cannot afford fancy clothes. Because of this, they get bullied. Though uniforms would not get rid of bullying, it would weaken it, which is better than nothing. This would benefit children with learning, now that they have less issues to think about. This would lead to better education, and better jobs in the future. Secondly, it would diminish the possibility of inappropriate clothing. Since the children would have to wear uniforms, they would less likely wear inappropriate clothing to school. Inappropriate clothing is in school quite a lot nowadays, with uniforms, you would remove this possibility. [6] Thirdly, it would be healthier for children. Without having to choose clothing in the morning, children would have more time to sleep. Sleep is probably one of the most important things when it comes to the well-being and learning of students. Sleep leads to less stress. Without enough sleep, our body goes into "high alert". This increases blood pressure, producing stress. Without sleep, we would be more stressed, which would affect our learning curves. Sleep also makes us more active. Well rested people become more active, aiding them mentally, which will improve their learning. And it improves memory by processing all we have experienced. This strengthens memory, and aids in work. [7] There even many many more reasons on why sleep is necessary and beneficial to students, and with school uniforms, we can easily accomplish these sleeping goals. And lastly, it is better for all incomes. With uniforms, children would buy much less clothes. Because of this, all incomes would be able to easily effectively purchase a uniform, and have less financial issues further on in the year. Back to you con. sources: 1.http://whereamiwearing.com... 2.http://fairtrade.ca... 3.http://www.classroomuniforms.com... 4.http://www.weirdasianews.com... 5.http://rockingreensoap.com... 6.http://www.ksl.com... 7.http://www.coco-mat.com...

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  • PRO

    Uniforms may increase a students self esteem because they...

    school uniforms should be allowed

    Thank you for making this debate. I believe school uniforms should be allowed and enforced at schools, especially at private schools. 1) Benefits of Uniforms 1. Uniforms may increase a students self esteem because they do not have to worry constantly to be better dressed than those around them. Many kids are discouraged by the fact that they don't own, or cannot afford some of the clothing other kids can. Uniforms put all kids at the same level, and takes that much more stress off the students that cannot afford the latest "fashion". 2. Uniforms improve learning by not allowing kids to be distracted. Clothes can be a huge distraction when you are in the clasroom, especially if you are bored. Kids always want to know what others are wearing and even judge other students over it. Uniforms eliminate this problem and helps kids to stay focused in class. 3. Uniforms show that everyone there with you is part of your school. It shows you are all part of a team. It promotes school spirit and shows that everyone there is "on the same side". 4. Uniforms support conformity. Although some may think this isn't that great of a thing and that kids should express themselves, in the end, life is truly about conformity. Humans strive to be like each other and don't want to be the odd one out. Uniforms support this and put all students on equal terms instead of wealthy students coming in with their fancy jeans and shirts and the less fortunate students coming in with ratty looking clothes. 5. Uniforms help the school faculty to quickly identify who is part of the school and in the end could actually help in keeping strangers and potentially dangerous people off the campus. I await my opponents response. http://www.eduguide.org...

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  • CON

    This is also likely to translate to the teachers who will...

    this house will ban school uniforms

    Resolution: School Uniforms don't bother kids. Many kids believe that school uniforms should be banned because they don't like the right of not choosing what they where. However many people are challenging this idea now. Scientists conclude that having uniforms is good because it keeps you less concerned on what you wear and more concerned on other things. Also it is very easy to know what school you go to or it is not like having everyone looking at what you wear. For example do you really want people to know you by what you where? People might bully you if you wear bad clothes or clothes with a low price. But uniforms... No problem! Everyone wears the same thing and no one would bother what you wear because they wear the same thing. Also In some countries, like the U.K., Japan, Hong Kong, and several African countries, school uniforms are worn in almost every school. In other countries, like France and Germany, school uniforms are only worn in a few schools, or even none. However, in some of these countries opinions are changing. For example, both France1 and Germany2 have recently considered bringing school uniforms back, and in the U.S.A. the percentage of public schools in which children wear a uniform has increased from 11.8 in 1999-2000 to 17.5 in 2007-20083. On the other hand, some schools in the U.K. have gotten rid of school uniforms4. With such different rules in these different countries, it is important to think about whether or not school uniforms are really necessary, and why. School uniforms create a sense of equality School catchment areas are diverse and in private schools, some children are there on a scholarship. So, without uniforms there are clear indicators of wealth between what children wear. This makes poorer children stand out, (or even possibly the reverse). Children can then be bullied for being different, which diminishes a child's enjoyment of school. A study in New York has shown that 84% of parents think uniforms promote equality, and 89% of guidance counselors think uniforms help teach children to be more accepting of others who are less fortunate[3]. This perception among parents will help create the same perception among their children. This is also likely to translate to the teachers who will therefore treat their pupils more equally. School uniforms contribute to the sense of school unity Schools that have a uniform often say that they do so because wearing a uniform helps their students feel a sense of unity and pride in their school (e.g., Sacred Heart Catholic School, 2010)[15]. The headmistress of Fulham Cross School in London, England, has been quoted as saying that introducing a uniform at her school gave students "an incredible sense of pride"; after the introduction of a school uniform, GCSE passes at her school rose from 42 to 53 per cent[16]. This sense of unity is especially important on school trips, where teachers need to be able to tell which children belong to their school, so that no one gets lost. School uniforms encourage discipline Having to wear smart clothes encourages children to respect their school and their teachers and behave themselves. This is because of the association between smart clothes and work. Casual wear at school can also make students feel over-relaxed and 'at home,' meaning they don't focus as much on work. A lot of schools are bringing back school uniform because they want to improve discipline[21]. Moreover, school uniform can actively encourage students to enter into an adversarial relationship with the curriculum and their teachers. Exercising arbitrary control over children in the interests of "discipline" is likely to convince them that the very sensible, rational principles of learning and critical thought that they acquire during the school day are equally arbitrary and meaningless. By refusing to allow children to participate in enjoyable, beguiling processes of discovery and understanding unless they comply with unjustified and meaningless rules about dress, schools risk being seen as oppressive and capricious by their students. Thank you. Sorces... http://idebate.org...

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